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Well, it looks like the 2009 Worldcon has been voted to Montreal over Kansas City. This greatly dismays me, but doesn't surprise me. The elimination of the rotation zones has predictably led to us having no Midwestern Worldcons.

The last Worldcon in "the Midwest zone" was in Toronto in 2003. And, to be honest, Toronto is as far east as Pittsburgh and almost as far east as Buffalo, both of which are clearly "Eastern zone". The only reason Ontario's in the old "Midwest zone" is because of the large, much more sparsely populated section of the province that overhangs the Midwest. But I wouldn't bet on a Thunder Bay Worldcon ever happening. So by geographic measures, the last Midwest Worldcon was probably Chicon 2000. Wow!

It's definitely been the "screw the dealers" decade for Worldcon. Since ConJose in 2002, the Worldcon has gone to Toronto, Boston, Glasgow, Los Angeles, Japan, Denver, and now Montreal, with a dead certainty that the next Worldcon will be in Australia, because the SMOFfish contingent would be sure to punish anyone who dared bid against it. Three Worldcons out of eight on the right side of the customs barrier.

If you're making your living from your fannish business, you might as well just start planning on going to Dragoncon. (We don't and I don't.) Who knows? Maybe that was part of the SMOFfish objective too. I've heard this constant background rumble that Worldcons had gotten to be too large.

I guess that's been fixed. Heck, even the most recent LACon was much smaller than we might have expected a few years ago.

Success!

Date: 2007-09-02 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] archiver-tim.livejournal.com
I got the impression that Dragon*Con has grown to larger than WorldCon attendance.

-Tim

Date: 2007-09-02 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalimeg.livejournal.com
Hugely, *considerably* larger than WorldCon. WorldCon has maybe 5000 attendees, and Dragoncon has over 20,000. WaaahWahhh, it was too biiiiig! Guess WorldCon will find out about grow-or-die.

I can't go to any high-altitude locations. I'm not inclined to go to Toronto-in-another-language. Maybe I'll try DragonCon.

Date: 2007-09-02 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaththeamac.livejournal.com
Montreal is not "Toronto-in-another-language". As a California transplant to New Brunswick, Toronto seems more like Chicago and Montreal more like Boston. It has several universities and a thriving music scene. And while French is the official language, there is a large English population in Montreal, so much conversation goes on in both languages at once. Fascinating place.

Date: 2007-09-02 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalimeg.livejournal.com
Not the city. The convention. After the top layer, it's the same committee.

Date: 2007-09-03 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaththeamac.livejournal.com
Oh. Okay. Clueless here, obviously.

Date: 2007-09-10 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marahsk.livejournal.com
After the top layer, it's the same committee.

Not quite. Many of the people who did the actual work at Torcon (ie, NOT the top two layers of management) won't be working for Anticipation.

Date: 2007-09-02 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zentinal.livejournal.com
...Guess WorldCon will find out about grow-or-die.

How large should a Worldcon be? Does it need to be as large as Dragon*Con or San Diego Comic-con or Pax?


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