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billroper ([personal profile] billroper) wrote2005-06-17 10:22 am
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This Disgusts Me

This story came to me by way of Marty Burke and my first assumption on reading it was that it had to be one of those false stories that occasionally gallops around the Internet. Then I got to the URL at the end.

"Wow, what an exciting day it's been.

I'll try to start at the beginning. This actually started about 2 years ago. We don't really have an SPCA here in the 2 counties, Bertie and Hertford. We have Animal Control to hold the animals. And the cats and dogs, puppies and kittens that are dropped off at the 2 vets here.

The vets do try to hold them for a little while and then PETA comes and takes them back to Virginia Beach to "find them good homes". They pick up at all the animal controls and the vets. I live way out in the woods, nothing here but the nearest town is Ahoskie, a very small town with one Wal-Mart as the only shopping store.

Well, the year before last and last year there were a number of cats and dogs found dead in the dumpsters, once behind the Chinese restaurant and then behind the Piggley wiggley. We all thought the local animal control or whoever picks up animals from the vets that are put to sleep just got lazy and put them there.

Well, last night the police, undercover, followed PETA from my vet's office where they just picked up some wonderful kittens, to find them homes. These kittens were just weaned and very sweet. This is the vet where I take pictures and work part time. Anyway, they put the kittens in the van [PETA] and killed them and took them to the dumpster at Piggly Wiggly. Where the police got them. They were actually caught in the act of dumping dead animals in the dumpster. There were a lot of animals so the police called my vet, Dr. Proctor, and animal control to come and identify the animals. Sure enough they got them. They were both PETA people. They were held in the local jail for while, not sure how long. Now it's all over the news. YEAH. My vet is so angry, he is calling and being interviewed by all the local news people. We want the word spread all over the world.

Who would think in a tiny little town like this is where it's all going to go down? That's probably why they thought they could get away with it. Oh, they also got them for illegal drugs. The van was full of the drugs. Email everyone and get the word out.

If any stations will pick this up or want to know about it, my vet can tell them. It's in Ahoskie, N.C. His name is Dr. Patrick Proctor.

I'm so excited they finally got caught. and sick over what has happened. I just was petting and loving on those kittens yesterday. This really shows the true PETA.

Of course, PETA won't make a statement yet and will probably say they weren't associated with this. But they were. Finally they are caught!"

Here's the story from a local TV station.

I'm sure that there are some good people in PETA. It seems clear that these folks weren't among them.

[identity profile] autographedcat.livejournal.com 2005-06-17 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's disgusting to me, too. But not, alas, surprising.

[identity profile] tigertoy.livejournal.com 2005-06-17 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
This story should disgust you, but if you know anything about PETA it does not surprise you. This is the real PETA. This is what you're really supporting if you contribute to their campaigns to stop testing of cosmetics on rabbits and close puppy mills. If you love animals, please do NOT support these nutjobs.

[identity profile] kevinnickerson.livejournal.com 2005-06-17 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
At the risk of getting people upset with me, the only thing I really see wrong is the dumpster bit. There's a real problem in that there are too many dogs and cats that people don't want. I suppose it would be possible to 'fix' all of them and feed and care for them until they die of old age, but it's not going to happen.

As to PETA saying they'd find homes for those '"very adoptable" kittens', that's what's known as a 'white lie'. It's simply not possible. Yes, they're very cute. So are the thousands and tens or hundreds of thousands of other kittens. And if a vet doesn't understand that, he's ... well, I don't know just what. An idiot, but I was looking for something stronger.

Not that I generally have any use for PETA.

[identity profile] jabberwokky.livejournal.com 2005-06-17 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not a white lie. It's a total falsehood. Shelters are very up front about their methods, usually a holding period to try to place the animal followed by a humane death (the methods used are usually fairly sickening to people unused to death, but it is what it is). When a vet puts down an animal, they tell the person who owns the animal. There are no "white lies" involved.

If I put a dog into a shelter, I expect it to be given a certain time and either placed or destroyed. If I give a dog up to someone for adoption, I expect them to have the intention of keeping it. If I put a dog into a dog farm, I expect them to have the intention of letting it live. Everything is up front and discussed; no pussyfooting around.

And if a vet doesn't understand that, he's ... well, I don't know just what. An idiot, but I was looking for something stronger.

I'd imagine that any vet who say that they will place a pet, walks into the back and euthanizes the animal would generate a tremendous outcry. Ethics pretty much demand that he or she tell the owner that they will destroy the animal or at least not make up a cock and bull story about adoption with no intent of pursuing that course.
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[personal profile] madfilkentist 2005-06-17 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Since PETA is a hard-core "animal rights" organization, there's an implicit assumption that they would no more kill a dog or cat than an adoption agency would kill a hard-to-place baby. That's what makes the story so shocking, if true.

[identity profile] jabberwokky.livejournal.com 2005-06-17 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. As I posted elsewhere about this:

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I hardly think that they represent the majority of PETA membership. It wouldn't be news if it were a couple people who happened to be members and killed their pet.

Is is news because they are employees who were engaged in systematic and planned euthanasia using their positions as part of PETA to do so. While I hardly think this practice is widespread within PETA, the extreme irony of actual representatives of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals killing and throwing away adoptable animals in bulk makes this a newsworthy story.

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[identity profile] tigertoy.livejournal.com 2005-06-18 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
They do not represent the majority of PETA membership, but they *do* represent the real hard core of the so-called animal rights movement, including the leadership of PETA. The real hard core people believe than animals are better off dead than in captivity.

[identity profile] jabberwokky.livejournal.com 2005-06-18 08:11 am (UTC)(link)
Don't get me wrong - the text I quoted was justifying why I posted that as a news story, and was a direct response to someone who said it wasn't accurate because the head of PETA disclaimed the actions.

Since I didn't make the original post here, I feel much more free to say what I think: PETA is a dangerous group. Both as a front for actual terrorist groups that firebomb homes and businesses and much more importantly, a emotional rather than rational branch of society that exhibits very terrifying cult like tendencies along the lines of Scientology or certain radical anti-abortion groups. They are not only willing to lie to convince people they are right, they have the ring of truth because they have convinced themselves that their lies are right. They honestly believe that animals are at least equal and likely more important than humans, and that they exist in a fictional utopia where if all the animals in the shelters were released, they would all get along and things would be better. They gnash their teeth and flagellate their souls in a guilt over their species that can be classified as a mental disorder. Just as anorexics will fixate on their imperfections and starve themselves to death, PETA fixates on the imperfections with our relation to the animal kingdom so sharply that they would drag our entire species to oblivion in order to atone for those imperfections.

They are a pox upon our culture and I fervently pray that they remain a mild annoyance rather than grow into a terminal disease.

(How's that for opinion?)
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[personal profile] madfilkentist 2005-06-17 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I still want to see what the evidence turns out to be. Much as i despise PETA, the words "Email everyone and get the word out" are an almost certain sign of disinformation. Note that the linked article, which is presumably more reliable, doesn't say they were caught in the act.

[identity profile] stevieannie.livejournal.com 2005-06-17 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, but who/what is PETA?

[identity profile] drzarron.livejournal.com 2005-06-17 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
People for the Eating of Tasty Animals...

*DUCKS*

[identity profile] stevieannie.livejournal.com 2005-06-17 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Scrap previous comment. Dim blonde followed link. Doh!

And Eurgh!