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billroper ([personal profile] billroper) wrote2006-07-12 02:38 pm
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When Democracy Is the Wrong Tool

Democracy is, as Winston Churchill once said, "the worst system, except for all the others." In terms of government, I don't have much doubt that this is true. But sometimes, the whole concept of voting is applying the wrong tool to solve the particular problem that you're dealing with.

Voting is a good way to solve a problem when there are many people who are being affected by what's being voted upon and when there's no clear consensus solution to what the right solution to the problem is, nor any time to continue the discussion until a consensus is reached. (Yes, I know that you and I know what the right solution is and it's only those idiots out there who are completely incapable of reasoning logically who think otherwise...) But when you're trying to develop a solution, simply casting a vote doesn't do anything to help develop the correct answer. It says what you believe the correct answer to be, but it doesn't convey to the other members of the group anything about why you believe that answer to be correct.

Most people that you or I deal with aren't stupid. They may be ignorant, in that they don't have all of the facts that they might need to have in order to reach a correct answer. There are subjects on which I'm certainly ignorant. But ignorance is easier to correct than stupidity is, assuming that there are any actual facts to be discussed. (In the absence of factual data, we're frequently doomed to twist in the wind, since it's much harder to get to an answer when the facts are in dispute.)

What I'm trying -- and perhaps failing -- to say here is that I don't care what you think nearly so much as I care why you think it. I'm unlikely to learn anything from the former, but I may well learn something from the latter.

And I'd rather not be ignorant. I'd rather be right.

Even if what I believe is right tomorrow is not the same thing that I believe is right today.

[identity profile] smallship1.livejournal.com 2006-07-12 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Democracy is a lousy system which we're stuck with because of that thing in your Declaration of Independence about all humans being created equal. If you'd just kept to a rigidly defined social hierarchy things would run sooo much more smoothly... :)

The answer to the question "why do you think A?" is likely, at least in my case, to be "because I think B and C and A follows from that." If you trace it back far enough (probably having to resort to hypnosis) you might find the root of the belief is a completely unrelated event somewhen in my childhood that made me think Z. Sometimes it's simpler. I think democracy is a lousy system because every single government that my country has had since I have been old enough to know what a government was has been proved either corrupt, incompetent, or both, without even one exception. I don't have names and dates in order, but I remember reading or hearing about it on a regular basis since I was in school. On the other hand, I think we're stuck with it because I believe in that bit of the Declaration, and I believe that if Commander Vimes gets the vote, Nobby Nobbs *has* to have the vote as well no matter how certain we are he'll misuse it. Why I believe those things...I don't know.
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[personal profile] madfilkentist 2006-07-13 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
The question of who should have the vote and the question of what things are proper subjects of voting are two different things. Some things may not be voted in, no matter how many people want them (at least short of 2/3 of Congress and 3/4 of the states), because of that thing in the Bill of Rights saying "Congress shall make no law ..."